Greenland, Vinland and Nicholas Bergthorsson

sent to soc.history.medieval June 5th 2011

Nicholas Bergthorsson, by some scholars believed to have been the
‘mythic’ Nicholas of Thingeyer who in 1120’s visited and carthographed
Vinland.

Background:
Greenland, Vinland and Nicholas Bergthorsson (d 1158)
© Johansson Inger E, extrakt from manuscript Greenland and the
Greenlanders, 1995 rev 1997-2008

East of Denmark is Sweden, then comes Oland Gotland, then Hälsingland Vermland and the two Kwenlands, located north of ‘Biarmaland’.
Biarmaland is an inhabited land which extands northwards all the way to Greenland. South of Greenland is Helluland, then Markland, from it is not far to Vinland the Good. Which some people think extands all way to Africa. If so, there must be an extended sea area between Vinland and Markland. It is said that Thorfinn Karlsefne was cutting wood [in Markland] before he went out to seek Vinland. He came to where they thought the country was, but it was not, but none of the riches with him. Leif the lucky were the first to discover Vinland and when he met some merchants at sea as he was with the goodness of God saved the life. He introduced Christianity to Greenland, and it was not long before a bishop’s seat was built at a place called the Garden … ”
snabböversättning till engelska från isländskt originaltext
—— end of extract ——-

source: Nicholas Bergthorsson, Landa- och thjókdalysing. Abbot
Nicholas work is also edited as Leidarvisir och borgaskipan; or
Vejviser og byers beliggenhed The book dealing with land, towns and
ways to the Holy land from Island was written around 1154 is mentioned
by several scholars from those days up to present days.

Among those scholars is Kirsten A Seaver who managed to misinterpret
the islandic text due to beliving that the only sea mentioned was the
Atlantic. Which in a way is correct, but not if one read the text
completely. The important thing to be noticed is that Nicholas
Bergthorsson made a special note that the sea must have extand
between Vinland and Markland. In other words if abbot Nicholas was
correct than there must be a larger bay or gulf one had to pass while
sailing from Markland to Vinland. This has an impact which rarely been
discussed: While it’s true that Viking settlement been found in L’Anse
aux Meadows, Newfoundland, that settlement hardly can have been the
Vinland of the Icelandic Sagas. Please remember that vikings in those
days sailed from Scandinavia to and around Ireland and England. The
scholars and historians in Iceland would have known if Vinland was the
island Newfoundland.

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6 kommentarer till Greenland, Vinland and Nicholas Bergthorsson

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  2. norah4you skriver:

    Reblogga detta på Norah4you's Weblog and commented:

    More was known in 12th Century re NA than usually is known.
    Please read: East of Denmark is Sweden, then comes Oland Gotland, then Hälsingland Vermland and the two Kwenlands, located north of ‘Biarmaland’. Biarmaland is an inhabited land which extands northwards all the way to Greenland. South of Greenland is Helluland, then Markland, from it is not far to Vinland the Good. Which some people think extands all way to Africa. If so, there must be an extended sea area between Vinland and Markland. …

    Gilla

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    Hej , kan du privatsvara till emailen.

    Har du hört ”Greenland kallades Hronland förr i tiden” på gammal engelska ?

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