More Y-SNP calls for Chachapoyas

2015/09/02

A special thanks to Genetiker who allows me to reblogg and discuss this!

This is a very interesting study in itself. Even more interesting in the light of Nikulás Bergsson/Bergþórsson’s Leidarvisir and borgaskipan:
”… North of Germany is Denmark. Ocean extending into the Baltic Sea, near Denmark. Sweden is east of Denmark and Norway in the north. North of Norway’s Finnmark. … Beyond Greenland, southward, there Helluland and beyond it Markland, from there it is not far to Vinland. which some people think stretching all the way to Africa. England and Scotland is an island but is separate kingdoms. Iceland is a large island to the north of Ireland …. ”
Norse Vikings predated Columbus exploring North America – Smoking gun part 2 chapter 1

Once I came across a Spanish monk’s notes when he followed Spanish explorers in Mid resp South America. He had a short note that they met ”white” indians with red hair and that almost all died within weeks after the meeting. True or false? Never been able nor had money and/or time following the possible ”lead” to something substantial. Could it possibly be so that Norse Vikings, read Swedes, Norwegians, Scots and Basques, who hunted mamals followed the coast in the New World as the done in the Old?

Genetiker

Below are more Y-SNP calls for six male pre-Columbian Chachapoya mummy samples. Positive calls are in bold, and negative calls are in non-bold.

This post gives more information about the Chachapoyas, and it includes links to photographs of Chachapoya remains showing that they had European rather than Amerindian hair. This post gives more information about the samples below, along with analyses of their autosomal DNA.

The published DNA-based sex determination analyses indicated that one of the seven available Chachapoya mummy samples was female, and that four of them were possibly female, but I’ve done new sex determination analyses that indicate that only one of the samples, NA43, was female.

The calls for NA39 show that he did not belong to haplogroup Q1a2-L56, which makes up the vast majority of Amerindian Y chromosomes. He might have belonged to Q1a1-F1096, whose Q1a1a1-M120 branch has been found in Peruvians.

The calls for NA47…

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Norse Vikings predated Columbus exploring North America – Smoking gun part 1

2015/07/14

Pehr Kalm born 1716 (d. 1779) was born in Sweden by Finish parents. He was a trained scientist, botanist, naturalist as well as agricultural economist and one of Carl von Linné (Linnaeus) followers. 1747 Pehr Kalm was payed by Royal Swedish Academy of Science to register information as well as bringing back plants and seeds to Sweden.

In 1750 Peter Kalm visited the area around todays Quebec. He edited 3 volumes, one nr 4 was edited after his death from notes he made. Some of the information he presents in his work where he notes what he saw in 1750. An English translation was made in 1966. Title: The America of 1750 : Peter Kalm’s travels in North America.

* During his trip in 1750 found Peter Kalm 180-190 years old white pines in Bay St. Paul (near Quebec)

as seen in the image below, the pine is not naturally occurring in NA.

Pinus Sylvestris (sv. tall)

Pinus Sylvestris (sv. tall)

source: Pinus Sylvestris, Linneaus Flora

180-190 years is still borderline because they could be planted by Cartier in 1534

* But when Kalm tells that he in 1750 saw 230 years old the red pines dated from counting of tree rings, those pines that aren’t native in NA can’t possibly be linked to any known European explorer.

That tree must have been planted at least 4 years before Verrazzanos made his exploration journey form Florida up to Nova Scotia in 1524. And Verrazzanos never made in inlands nor did he follow for example Hudson River north.

* But the real smoking gun was a Oak tree planted 251 years before Kalm’s voyage in 1750. Oak never was native in NA and that tree was planted latest 1499.

Quercus robur - Ek